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In this episode of American Greed. Our
mission is to lift the spirits and

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gladden the hearts.

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Jim Reynolds and his family raised $187
million promising to help cancer

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victims. He's not a big fellow, but boy,
he has a big heart.

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It's a pitch that pulls at the
heartstrings, but it's all a lie.

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A lot of good people gave a lot of good
money for a lot of good reasons, and it

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just went nowhere positive.

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The Reynolds family uses donated money
to live the good life, and suffering

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victims seeking comfort get junk
instead.

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We got a box, and it said Cancer Fund of
America on it. But when we opened it

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up, we were all in shock.

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And later, all across the country,
American girls are missing.

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Dolls, that is.

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And here it goes. The tag's off, and
it's in the skirt, just like that.

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For one family, thievery is the tie that
binds.

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What made the Bogdanoff such great
thieves is that they work together as a

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The Bogdanoff family crisscrosses the
country on a toy -stealing crime spree

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worth $7 .1 million.

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The Bogdanoffs literally could not walk
into a store without snatching something

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on the way out.

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The workday is done. The kids are home
from school.

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It's time to sit down for dinner.

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Then the phone rings.

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Hi, how you doing? Who are you? It's the
Cancer Fund of America.

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We're a 501c3 charity. We help cancer
patients anywhere in the United States.

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Now, what does this do? We provide those
medical supplies and items for men,

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women, and children with the fourth
stage cancer.

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We're helping the patients with this
one, the people that need the help the

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fighting the disease of cancer.

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And we just wanted to be sure if the
cancer patients could count on your

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continued support. Would that be okay?

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According to the National Cancer
Institute, nearly 1 .7 million Americans

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diagnosed with the dreaded disease each
year.

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So when someone asks for a small
donation to help cancer patients, it may

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like there's only one humane response.

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Well, I'll go ahead and give $20.

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Oh, great, ma 'am. Great. Thank you.

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When you hear the word cancer, it then
shivers through your spine.

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And so when you hear of a charity that
is...

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offering to provide some level of relief
or assistance to either a family or a

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victim of cancer, you automatically, you
know, want to help.

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We all know family members who have
cancer or died of cancer, and we want to

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there when this catastrophe hits the
family.

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It's out of this desire to help that one
man has built a thriving family

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business. Our mission is to lift the
spirits and gladden the heart of the

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because when cancer strikes, So
devastating to the family.

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Launched in the 1980s in Knoxville,
Tennessee, the Cancer Fund of America is

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brainchild of a former Army medic named
Jim Reynolds Sr.

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Oh, he was looked up to.

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Marilyn Rasmussen lives in Knoxville,
where she attends church with Reynolds.

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He was highly respected, at least in the
church, because he had a charity.

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After hearing about Reynolds' successful
charity at church,

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Rasmussen learns what they're really
doing in 2002, when her father -in -law

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Eddie is diagnosed with cancer.

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We got a box in the mail out of Clear
Blue Sky, and it said Cancer Fund of

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America on it. We didn't ask for it, but
it cheered my father -in -law up when

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he saw the box.

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You know, he was real excited, and we
were too.

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The box, and many like it, are paid for
with donations brought in by an army of

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telemarketers.

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They called it sales. They didn't call
it, you know, fundraising. They called

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sales. At a nondescript office in the
Detroit suburbs, Ebony Squirewell first

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goes to work for a fundraising offshoot
of the Cancer Fund of America in 2003.

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Some people will have to learn to be
good at it, but I was good at it right

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away.

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Squirewell sees the opportunity as more
than just a way to pay the bills.

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It's a very sensitive topic when it
comes to cancer because there are cancer

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patients in my family. So I said, oh,
okay, if it's to help cancer patients,

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I'll do it.

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It's been years since she made calls she
thought were helping, but the scripted

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pitch she gave is still seared in her
mind.

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Hello, this is Ebony from the Cancer
Fund of America Support Services. How

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you today?

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He would say, fine. I said, well, great.
We're calling really brief. We're

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continuing our cancer rate program where
we're helping cancer patients with

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their medical supplies and hospice care.

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Anything we can do to help these cancer
patients in their time of need, we just

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wanted to make sure we can get you out a
pledge card and count on you for your

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support. Would that be okay?

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Over the years, Squirewell becomes an
expert at bringing in cash for a cause

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believes in.

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And while she has daily contact with the
managers who run the call room, she

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never actually meets the man behind the
curtain.

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Hello, I'm Jim Reynolds. I'm president
for the Cancer Fund of America.

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This is our national headquarters here,
and we'd like to welcome you.

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Before starting his charity, Reynolds
worked at the well -known and unrelated

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American Cancer Society, which focuses
on cancer research.

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When he sets out on his own, he creates
a pitch meant to set his new charity

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apart. Now, there's nothing wrong with
research.

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I hope they find a cure for cancer
through research someday.

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But there's so many organizations out
there doing research that the few

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we could put into research would be like
a drop in the ocean. I think the Cancer

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Fund of America was smart, if you could
use that phrase with this group, by

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saying to people, we're going to help
people who have the disease right now.

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Art Taylor of the Better Business
Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance says

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value in differentiation.

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Yeah, there are others out there doing
research.

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That's fine, but when will we ever find
the cure for cancer?

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People need help today, and that's what
we're going to do. We're going to help

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them right now.

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There's many people out there that
research is just too late for.

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We've got to do something to help.

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CFA and their callers give potential
donors a laundry list of ways they're

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helping. You're going to provide them
with transportation, pain medication,

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know, medical supplies.

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These are all things that they
represented Cancer Fund would provide.

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And they say it's all done on a massive
scale.

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The Cancer Fund of America is the only
national cancer charity that has

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commodities and financial aid to victims
of cancer as its major priority. In

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this past year alone, CFA has tended to
the needs of some 70 ,000 clients with

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items designed to lift their spirits and
improve their lives.

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Helping out with pain meds,
transportation, and hospice sounds like

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venture. Without your help, this
warehouse could stand empty.

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In this video, made for telemarketers
like Ebony Squirewell, they make it

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that they can't do it alone.

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And over 450 hospices with more than 5
,000 patients would not have some of the

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things necessary to ease the suffering
and pain, as well as sustaining their

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nutritional health.

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If this type of encouragement isn't
enough, there are other ways to keep

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fundraisers busy.

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We were never allowed to accept no.

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Squire Wells says her job depended on
hitting a quota, and persistence was

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essential.

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If they say no, then I'll give them a
smaller amount.

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You know, I'll give them a smaller
amount. They say no to 50, I'll say 25.

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They say no to 25, I'll say 15.

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They say no to 15, I'll say 10. You
know, I'm going to make you say yeah,

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because, again, I'm not asking for
anything today.

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I'm just asking to send a pledge card
out to you and counting on you for your

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support. Is that okay?

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Provided with a list of rebuttal answers
meant to turn a no into a yes,

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Squirewell says she could always count
on getting a pledge from a certain

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target. Older people.

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And pretty much knew that the rebuttals
would get the older people.

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The calls made by Squirewell and many,
many other employees add up in a big,

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way.

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Between 2008 and 2012, CFA and two other
cancer charities run by the Reynolds

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family raised $187 million.

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But what are they actually doing?

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In the fall of 2002, Marilyn Rasmussen's
father -in -law, Eddie, opens the box

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he got from CFA and finds out.

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There were a couple of bags of chips in
there.

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There was a coloring book. There was
little crayons. There was a baby doll.

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There was nothing there that he could
use.

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There was nothing there to give him
comfort.

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This is one of the items that was in the
box that my husband's father received.

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It's the only thing that we saved
because I like wild animals. I think

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of funny because the bottom of it says
storm brewing.

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But I have to ask you, what does this
have to do with helping somebody with

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cancer? How is this supposed to give him
comfort?

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I mean, it's pretty, and I love animals,
but it didn't help my father -in -law

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any. It was just a bunch of things put
together in a box. It looked like

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somebody went through their warehouse
and just threw things in the box and

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just closed it up and shipped it out.

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And I was just, I was shocked.

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Eddie Rasmussen dies a few months later,
and his daughter -in -law says the

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cancer fund's box felt like one last
indignity.

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When he got that box, you know, he was
in a lot of physical pain. He was

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suffering, and that really did not help
him any.

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Next on American Greed, find out who's
really cashing in at the Reynolds Family

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Cancer Charities.

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It makes you sick to your stomach.

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It makes you actually sick.

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This is where it all begins.

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This is the back part of our building.
We have a 10 ,000 square foot warehouse.

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Jim Reynolds Sr.

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brings in a fortune promising to help
those in need.

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We begin to understand that no person is
alone in our society as long as we care

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and are there to help.

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For years, donors are promised their
money will be used to provide pain

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medications, to transport patients to
chemo appointments, and to pay for

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care. You know, there were some things
that you...

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had to say in the script. You know, you
had to say that you were helping cancer

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patients with medical supplies and
hospice care.

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But there's a glaring problem.

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They did not purchase pain medication,
they did not provide hospice care, and

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they did not provide transportation.

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None of the money went to those three
programs because they simply didn't

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Instead, patients get boxes, like the
one received by Marilyn Rasmussen's

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-in -law.

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Some contain potentially useful items
like instant breakfast, adult diapers,

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bed pads.

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Others contain curious odds and ends
that are of no particular use to cancer

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patients. Things like sample -sized
toiletries, over -the -counter

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toys, makeup, DVDs, and certain food
items which Reynolds later tries hard

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to justify.

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Originally, a lot of the packs included
little Debbie snack cakes, which I think

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he explained in a deposition made people
happy.

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And at some point, they switched to
providing moon pies, which he explained

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people happier.

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Moon pies aren't the only way Reynolds
says his charity is making patients

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happy. Last year, we started a program
just for children in addition to the

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regular programs that we have giving
products out. We started writing checks.

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And we've written, to date, 1 ,375
checks for a total of $95 ,000.

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While it sounds good, the program
delivers just a fraction of what's been

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promised. If you look at the actual
records of that, the amount they

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was paltry. It was in the thousands of
dollars, even though they were raising

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billions of dollars.

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Less than 3 % actually went to cancer
patients and victims.

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That's appalling. This would offend...

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even organized criminals and mobsters.

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So where, then, is the rest going?

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Most of it goes to shady telemarketing
companies.

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Year after year, Reynolds and his
family's charities sign contracts with

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fundraisers, allowing them to keep 80 to
95 percent of the money they bring in.

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A vast proportion of every dollar that a
consumer gave for direct assistance.

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to cancer patients, their families, went
into the pockets of the telefunders.

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Though these fees may seem criminally
high, the Supreme Court has recognized

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charity fundraising as a form of free
speech.

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Lawmakers can't limit what telemarketers
charge or force them to disclose their

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take up front.

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Charities are free to spend as much
money as they choose on fundraising.

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What they can't do is lie. If they lie,
then they can be prosecuted for fraud.

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But most people don't ask the question.
And the real question consumers should

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be asking is how much of the money goes
to the program.

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In other words, if you tell me you're
raising money to give to cancer

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how much will cancer patients actually
receive?

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After telemarketers take their huge cut,
it's time for the Reynolds family to

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get what's left.

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Cancer Fund was really almost a full
employment operation for James Reynolds

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and his family.

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As seen in this chart of intertwined
relationships, CFA spins off two

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franchises, the Breast Cancer Society
run by Reynolds' son and the Children's

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Cancer Fund of America run by senior's
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At all three charities, helping cancer
patients takes a back seat to providing

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unnecessary jobs to unqualified family
and friends.

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and paying them unjustifiable salaries.

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This self -dealing goes on for years,
thanks to supposedly independent boards

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that are stacked with people whose main
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independence. The board members were
acquaintances, friends, people that

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Reynolds Sr. put on the board, and they
exercised no real meaningful oversight.

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You don't have anybody who's going to
say...

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Wait a minute, too much of the money is
being paid for bonuses, for benefits,

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for cars, for credit cards, for tuition,
for loans, when the only person who is

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responsible for that is the patriarch of
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Even in years when donations fall, the
charities cut programs but raise

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salaries. It makes me sick to know that
many of these people were earning more

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in salary than they were actually
contributing to people with cancer.

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It makes you actually thick.

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With little to no oversight, money for
cancer victims pays instead for company

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cars, college tuitions, gym memberships,
jet ski outings, cruises, and trips to

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Disney World.

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Plus, fees for dating websites, tickets
to concerts and sporting events, meals

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at Hooters, and purchases at Victoria's
Secret.

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And Reynolds is free to enjoy it all in
a half -million -dollar house

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overlooking a lake.

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And what he built was an empire of
family members, greed, and a culture

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the exact opposite of charity.

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This was an organization that was built
just for their own personal benefit.

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This should have been shut down
immediately.

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Up next on American Greed. Nobody had
ever looked at all of these

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together.

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Investigators look close at the Reynolds
family cancer charities and uncover the

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deep web of connections that's allowed
their deceit to continue.

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Every time somebody needed an executive
level salary, they would start a new

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organization.

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But sometimes when we have cash in our
pocket, we don't use it for what we

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should or what we need, but we'll use it
for other things.

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Jim Reynolds and his charities bring in
millions despite a sordid history that

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actually goes back decades.

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What they're talking about is Cancer
Fund of America.

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News reports say he set up the Cancer
Fund after being fired from a legitimate

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cancer organization for stealing a car.

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Soon after setting up his own so -called
charity, Reynolds found himself in hot

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water. Connecticut and Pennsylvania have
filed separate lawsuits against Cancer

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Fund of America.

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Both complaints allege that in 1990,
Cancer Fund of America participated in a

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scheme to donate near -worthless goods.

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Despite lawsuit after lawsuit after
lawsuit, donors keep opening their

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for Reynolds Charities.

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The public isn't going to like this, but
ultimately the burden is on each of us

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as donors to make sure that we're giving
to legitimate charities. If donors had

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gone to our website and looked up the
Cancer Fund of America, they would have

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seen a report with a big red exclamation
point warning them to avoid that

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charity at all costs. And we look at
areas such as how well a charity is

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governed. Though it's possible to ferret
out bad charities by researching them

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on sites like Charity Navigator or the
Better Business Bureau's Give .org, few

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people take the time to do so. And for
those who do check them out, Reynolds and

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Company takes steps to falsely make
themselves look more efficient than they

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are. Remember that junk in a box?

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They use their tax forms to report
hugely inflated values for everything

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give away.

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What they would do is take a pill that
in reality should be valued at two cents

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and value it on their book as being
donated at a value of a dollar.

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It's an accounting trick, and it allows
inefficient charities to make themselves

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look more efficient than they really
are.

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This tricky accounting creates the
illusion that more of their money is

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cancer patients than to themselves and
their fundraisers.

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And hiding what they do is only part of
what allows them to continue on.

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There's really not enough cops on the
beat in this area. The charity's law

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enforcement regulatory community is
pretty small.

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Most state charity regulators don't have
the kind of resources that they need to

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look into every case. Many people expect
that the IRS...

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is going to be the agency that will go
after unscrupulous charities.

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But the IRS is not really set up to do
lots and lots of audits of charities

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either. In this environment, a bad actor
could simply pay a fine in one state

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and keep ripping off consumers
elsewhere.

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In the past, when there was this type of
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I believe that a state would almost pass
the trash to the next state. An

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organization would be investigated.

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They would shut down and then go to
another community and then take

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a whole different set of donors.

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Recently,

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though, charity regulators have begun
banding together to go after bad

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charities, hoping that a joint action
will leave them no safe harbor.

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Nobody had ever looked at all of these
organizations.

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Over lunch at a conference in 2010,
Elizabeth Korsmo, an assistant attorney

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general in New Mexico, and a colleague
from Missouri discussed using this multi

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-state strategy against the Reynolds
family.

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They made the recommendation that they
thought this organization was somewhat

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suspicious. And literally that is how
this probe began. It was two government

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professionals being concerned and began
to move forward. And it became one of

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the largest actions in the history of
this country.

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I believe it was on the Cancer Fund
website. They had a listing of their

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employees. Working with investigator
Elena Goodman, CORSMO helps establish

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deep web of connections between the
Cancer Fund of America and other

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Family Charities.

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Once those relationships were revealed,
then we could see how, instead of just

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one charity that had poor fundraising
costs and poor program expenses,

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we could see how this was an intentional
setup that had expanded.

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Every time somebody needed an executive
-level salary, they would start a new

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organization.

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As their knowledge of the charities
grows, all 50 states and the District of

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Columbia join together with the Federal
Trade Commission in a joint effort to

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shut down Reynolds' cancerous effort.

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And the news begins to spread.

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The names sound charitable, but a
lawsuit filed by the FTC in all 50

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calls these charities shams. Next on
American Greed, after decades of

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the public, Reynolds faces justice.

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And then, a different kind of thieving
family, pursued by a dogged detective in

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the case of the missing... dolls?

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See, I never thought that I'd be talking
to American Greed.

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over hundreds of missing American Groval
products.

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In May 2015, charity regulators from
every corner of the country filed a

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complaint in Arizona, which eventually
leads to the shuttering of the Reynolds

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family charities.

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This is an historic moment.

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the first time the federal government
and all of the state charity regulators

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have joined together to present a united
front against charity fraud.

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Reynolds is banned from ever running a
charity again and is slapped with a $75

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million judgment.

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He's forced to sell off what's left of
the charity and hand over his pontoon

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boat, two guns, and a collection of beer
signs.

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But he'll only have to pay up if he
reenters the charity business or if he's

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found to have hidden his assets.

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Reynolds did not respond to repeated
requests from American Greed for

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But in court documents, he remains
unrepentant and summarizes his decades

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with a Mormon hymn that reads, Have I
done any good in the world today? Have I

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helped anyone in need?

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Have I cheered up the sad, made someone
feel glad? If not, I have failed indeed.

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Neither Reynolds nor any family member
has faced criminal prosecution for the

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scam that brought in $187 million.

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You can commit petty crimes in America
and go to jail, and yet this Mr.

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Reynolds can create a license to steal
from any good American, and he won't see

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the inside of a jail cell, and there's
something wrong with that type of

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In 2013, at a Barnes and Noble in
Murfreesboro, Tennessee, 45 American

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dolls worth more than $1 ,000 have gone
missing.

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The next day, a few hours down the road
in Alpharetta, Georgia, 64 more of the

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dolls, each costing $24, disappeared.

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It's quite unusual to have that much
product come missing in such a short

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window.

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When thieves strike, it's time for
Barnes and Noble investigator Glenn

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step in.

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It was absolutely unique in my career to
have something materialize so quickly.

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So the stores were able to quickly
assemble images of who they really

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was responsible.

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Entering right now is the first
unidentified male.

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The investigation begins with a look at
store surveillance video that captures

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the comings and goings of all honest
customers and would -be thieves.

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And I'll pause the video here.

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I want to point out her skirt.

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This is a pleated skirt. You can see
that it's clearly flat on the front and

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flows freely as she's walking.

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To the untrained eye, a skirt is just a
skirt.

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But to store Detective Glenn Justice, it
could be a shoplifter's shopping bag.

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She will be followed by a female, blonde
hair, pulled back, blue jeans in her

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30s. Okay, and here they are exiting. I
want to point out the skirt.

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It's no longer hugging her body.

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It's actually protruding. The reason for
that is it's concealed underneath of

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that in a pouch.

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or every single American Girl doll that
was in the store at the time.

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All right, so this is the very next day
in Alpharetta, Georgia, right, a suburb

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of greater Atlanta, Georgia. And in the
store comes the same female, same skirt,

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followed by the male right behind that,
just the same female, hair pulled back,

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blonde, blue jeans, entering the store.

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Justice has spotted the same trio
entering the victimized stores 224 miles

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apart.

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There's no doubt in my mind at that time
that these are the same three

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individuals that hit Tennessee, which is
a consistent behavior with a

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professional shoplifter. I realized that
all I had was images of three people,

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and it was my job to leverage that into
what their identities were.

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There used to be a time when detectives
would hit local pawn shops to see if

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anyone had come in trying to unload
stolen goods.

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Now they start somewhere else.

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The online marketplaces, i .e. Amazon,
eBay, and a plethora of others, have

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given the ability to quickly lift and
sell large quantities of stolen product.

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However, that is a double -edged sword.

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All of the listings and sales of that
product can be researched quite quickly

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and efficiently to ferret out this type
of activity.

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Using special software, it's possible to
find missing items if you know what to

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look for.

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In this case, American Girl minis sold
in mass quantities at prices that are

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below retail.

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I conducted a search, and it returned
two accounts and two accounts only. In

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less than seven minutes, I knew who my
culprits were.

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Working with eBay, he learns the suspect
accounts are from the Chicago area.

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One belongs to a 71 -year -old man who
Justice suspects may be the fence, that

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is, the person buying and selling
products for the thieves.

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The other account leads to a husband and
wife named Bronco and Layla Bogdanoff,

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as well as their daughter Julia.

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A Google search turns up criminal
histories and mugshots, and when he

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them to the people caught on camera,
Justice knows he's on to his thieves.

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Being able to pull that ghost out of
thin air and put an identity with them,

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is, it's intoxicating.

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And when the final numbers come in,
Justice sees that along with their

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the Bogdanoffs have stolen an astounding
$7 .1 million worth of merchandise.

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$7 million was quite a surprise.

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As a matter of fact, to date, that's
probably the very largest, most

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case that I have been involved with.

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Next on American Greed, the products
they target may be small, but the family

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business has the Bogdanoffs living
large.

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And the type of living they were able to
sustain by chronic theft, yeah, it was

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disturbing. Could you spot the
Bogdanoffs in action? Take a closer look

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thievery at AmericanGreed .CNBC .com.

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Making off with millions, the Bogdanoff
family is part of a big problem that

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CNBC retail reporter Courtney Reagan
says is only getting bigger.

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The National Retail Federation estimates
that $45 billion in losses occur in

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retail due to shrinkage. Shrinkage being
the retail industry term for inventory

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loss, which comes from theft by either
consumers or employees or goods that are

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otherwise damaged or unsellable. When an
item disappears off the shelf, who

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ultimately pays the price?

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When you're thinking about the prices
that shoppers pay at stores, if you see

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store or a retailer that has a high
amount of shrinkage or theft, that means

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that is not a profit, it's a loss. And
in order to make up for that loss,

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they're going to have to increase the
prices, which ultimately means that

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shoppers can end up paying more to make
up for the dishonesty.

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With thievery on the rise, the
Bogdanoffs are some of the best in the

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It seemed like theft was a way of life
for the Bogdanoffs.

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According to former federal prosecutor
Renato Mariotti, there's a secret to

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their success.

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What made the Bogdanoffs such great
thieves is that they worked together as

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team. I mean, this is a family that had
been working together for years.

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You had the father, Bronco Bogdanoff,
who would remove, you know, difficult to

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remove security wrappings off of.

448
00:30:52,429 --> 00:30:57,910
You had the mother, Layla Bogdanoff, who
would be able to secrete items in her

449
00:30:57,910 --> 00:31:02,730
skirt, hide things in a way that would
be difficult for store personnel to find

450
00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:04,490
and make them hesitant to search.

451
00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:08,410
And then, of course, you had the
daughter, Julia Bogdanoff, who would

452
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:13,090
them as a lookout, looking to see if
store employees were paying attention,

453
00:31:13,090 --> 00:31:17,210
if they were, to quickly interfere with
them so that the other two could make a

454
00:31:17,210 --> 00:31:20,880
getaway. Here's another example of the
bug on us. You're going to see here the

455
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,360
EAS, the security activation.

456
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,360
The daughter's role running interference
can be seen very clearly in this video.

457
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,500
Julia's role, again, is to intercept any
employee that would try to follow and

458
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:33,800
stop her mother and father.

459
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,440
Here you see the employees responding to
the activation of the security device.

460
00:31:39,380 --> 00:31:44,540
She's engaging them in conversation to
try to give mom and dad time to get in

461
00:31:44,540 --> 00:31:45,820
their vehicle and flee.

462
00:31:46,330 --> 00:31:49,670
So this is just a great illustration of
how they operate.

463
00:31:50,030 --> 00:31:55,890
The Bogdanoff success starts before they
go into a store with research on

464
00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:56,970
consumer demand.

465
00:31:57,450 --> 00:31:59,750
They chose their product brilliantly.

466
00:32:00,010 --> 00:32:06,690
All of the product that they would
target was brand new, in demand,

467
00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:08,750
easily monetized.

468
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:10,510
The Bogdanoffs were smart enough.

469
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,560
to locate the highest value items they
could think of that were small and could

470
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,640
fit inside a skirt. So they would go
after Lego sets.

471
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:24,040
Not the $10 Lego sets or $20 Lego sets
that you buy for your little kid to play

472
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,560
with, but expensive Lego sets that were
collector's items that would retail for

473
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,760
several hundred dollars each.

474
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,000
Their thievery from stores including
Barnes and Noble and Toys R Us makes them

475
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920
millions, and the Bogdanoffs live the
good life.

476
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,860
It's hard to believe that stealing toys
and electronics could get you a $1 .3

477
00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:49,160
million house in a rich Chicago suburb.
That's exactly what happened for Bronco

478
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,440
and Layla Boganoff. They lived in a
luxurious home.

479
00:32:52,660 --> 00:32:55,620
They had many cars, some of them luxury
cars.

480
00:32:55,820 --> 00:32:59,520
They lived a very good quality of life
without appearing to be working

481
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,260
legitimately at all.

482
00:33:01,710 --> 00:33:06,650
In December, Glenn Justice travels to
Chicago and confronts the man he

483
00:33:06,650 --> 00:33:08,450
is the Bogdanoff's fence.

484
00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:13,250
The fence listened, and after about a
minute and a half, interrupted me and

485
00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:16,090
said, Mr. Justice, I think I know where
this conversation's going.

486
00:33:16,830 --> 00:33:18,870
I'm not stealing any of this product.

487
00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:22,510
I'm getting it from a specific
individual.

488
00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:28,270
Justice goes with the 71 -year -old gift
shop owner to his home and follows him

489
00:33:28,270 --> 00:33:29,270
into his garage.

490
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,240
And I truly wasn't prepared for what I
was going to see.

491
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,440
It was laid out like a good stock room.
Three of the four walls had shelves with

492
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,300
product neatly stacked by category and
type. And in front of me on the shelves

493
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:56,340
were hundreds of my Missing American
Girl doll product right in front of me.

494
00:33:56,980 --> 00:33:59,560
Do I have your permission to record this
conversation?

495
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Yes, you do.

496
00:34:00,910 --> 00:34:06,610
The man agrees to tape a recorded
statement and tells Justice all about

497
00:34:06,610 --> 00:34:11,130
who's been selling him goods for years,
a business associate he knows not as

498
00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:12,790
Bronco, but Franco.

499
00:34:14,270 --> 00:34:19,710
Unlike most multimillion -dollar crime
partnerships, however, theirs starts

500
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:21,690
tiny, plush collectibles.

501
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,980
How did you meet him initially?

502
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,040
He approached me in my gift shop with
Beanie Babies to sell.

503
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:32,840
From that initial meeting over Beanie
Babies, a relationship flourishes.

504
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,460
Can you describe some of the product
that you've bought from him over the

505
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:43,060
please? Baby monitors, baby carriers,
toys such as Surveys,

506
00:34:43,179 --> 00:34:49,659
American Girl Mini Dolls, VTech
electronic toys, NanoBlock,

507
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,820
Lego Movie House.

508
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,880
Over a decade, he's turned Franco's
Goods into a thriving business on eBay.

509
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:03,220
What would you estimate the yearly
income, gross income, to be over the

510
00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:04,220
several years?

511
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,980
The last couple of years, it's been
about $200 ,000.

512
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:12,240
Can you estimate how many items you have
sold on your account over the course of

513
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,240
its history?

514
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,320
At least 100 ,000.

515
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,580
What percentage of products sold on your
eBay account was supplied by Franco in

516
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:21,558
your estimation?

517
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:27,700
90 to 95%. The tape in hand, Justice can
feel the case of the missing dolls

518
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:28,700
coming together.

519
00:35:28,780 --> 00:35:31,800
But first, he needs to shut down his
thieves.

520
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:38,500
Literally, while I am speaking with the
fence in his garage with all of the

521
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,380
product that's stolen.

522
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,440
The Bogdanovs are in southern Florida,
near the Fort Lauderdale area, stealing

523
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,440
from my stores.

524
00:35:46,620 --> 00:35:52,040
Next on American Greed, the feds join
the hunt for the Bogdanovs, and Justice

525
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120
gets his first clear look at their
thievery in action.

526
00:35:55,380 --> 00:35:59,100
So here we go. Pay attention. It happens
quickly. And here it goes. The tag's

527
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,360
off, and it's in the skirt, just like
that.

528
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:14,020
In January 2014,

529
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:19,420
Glenn Justice brings the Bogdanoff case
to Chicago to present it to the U .S.

530
00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:23,580
Secret Service and Renato Mariotti, then
a federal white -collar crime

531
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:28,380
prosecutor. When I was assigned the
investigation of the Bogdanoffs, I was

532
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:32,300
investigating what I thought were some
extremely important financial crime

533
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:38,100
cases. And I was looking at this case
and I was thinking to myself, they want

534
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,100
to investigate.

535
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,100
A group of people who are stealing toys.

536
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,360
It just didn't make sense to me at all.

537
00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:49,560
After I talked to Glenn Justice, I
realized that these people were stealing

538
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,260
scale that was hard to imagine.

539
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:55,040
Millions of dollars worth of toys on the
tracks were being stolen.

540
00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:59,760
Mariotti decides that it's no longer
time for slaps on the wrist.

541
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,780
He wants to charge this band of
shoplifters with a federal crime.

542
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,960
To do so, he treats the investigation
like a drug case, obtaining a warrant to

543
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,880
track Bronco's cell phone, hoping to
catch the family in the act of

544
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,020
stolen goods across state lines.

545
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,880
Suddenly the phone was on the move. They
were traveling out of state, and they

546
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:27,480
ended up going to Oklahoma, Texas,
Louisiana, through Mississippi. They

547
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,180
over the place, stealing as they went.
As the Bogdanoffs head south, They have

548
00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:34,280
no idea they're under surveillance.

549
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,620
They watched them go into an Apple store
and come out. They watched them go into

550
00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:42,260
a Starbucks, come out. They watched them
go into Toys R Us, come out.

551
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,940
And what we found out afterwards when we
talked to people for each of those

552
00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:50,340
stores is that literally there were
thefts at every single store. When they

553
00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:54,700
to Starbucks, they stole 10 bags of
coffee. When they went to the FedEx

554
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,960
they stole packing supplies.

555
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,620
The Bogdanoffs literally could not walk
into a store without snatching something

556
00:38:00,620 --> 00:38:05,480
on the way out. Julia, Layla, settling
in. They're looking for product that

557
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,339
want to target.

558
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:11,060
When the Bogdanoffs enter a Toys R Us in
Houston, investigators have Glenn

559
00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:16,100
Justice contact the company, whose
employees follow their every move on

560
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,140
And this video will illustrate exactly
how the Bogdanoffs operate.

561
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,800
When they first go in, the Bogdanoffs
wander the aisles until they find the

562
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,100
product they've come to collect.

563
00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:35,380
This time, it's Lego Mindstorm blocks,
which have a retail value of $350 per

564
00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:39,100
set. Ultimately, they are going to go
over to where the Lego Mindstorm product

565
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:43,380
is. Bingo, there you go. There's
selection of one Lego Mindstorm.

566
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:49,140
Selection of number two. You can clearly
see that's what it is in the cart. And

567
00:38:49,140 --> 00:38:52,930
then Layla is going to grab another
piece of... merchandise and place it on

568
00:38:52,930 --> 00:38:57,290
so that store employees won't see that
mine storm being pushed throughout the

569
00:38:57,290 --> 00:39:02,570
store. Having found the goods, Bronco is
on the move, looking for the perfect

570
00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:03,950
spot in which to work.

571
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:10,350
What you're seeing now is Bronco and
Layla trying to find an aisle way where

572
00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:14,730
they're comfortable to remove the
security devices and conceal it. Right

573
00:39:14,890 --> 00:39:20,130
you see that? He's actually looking at
the camera. He was physically looking to

574
00:39:20,130 --> 00:39:23,370
see Is there a camera there? Is it
watching me?

575
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:27,370
And, hey, this might not be a good idea.
Let's go to another aisleway.

576
00:39:27,730 --> 00:39:31,290
Once they've found the right place,
everyone gets to work.

577
00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:36,030
You're going to see Bronco wrestling
with something on the box. Well, that's

578
00:39:36,030 --> 00:39:37,030
something on the box.

579
00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:38,250
It's a security device.

580
00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:43,510
Layla and Julia block the ends of the
aisle so no one happens to walk by and

581
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:44,750
what Bronco's up to.

582
00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:49,290
And he's going to try to loosen it
enough, and then once it's removed,

583
00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:54,010
hand that to Layla. And here it goes.
The tag's off, and it's in the skirt.

584
00:39:54,730 --> 00:39:55,730
Just like that.

585
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:58,050
You see her fluffer skirt?

586
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:59,850
That big box is gone.

587
00:40:00,170 --> 00:40:01,650
Now we're going to do it again.

588
00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:03,350
She's going to grab it.

589
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:07,520
And go in this side of her skirt. So
here we go. Pay attention. Happens

590
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:08,720
Right -hand side of the skirt.

591
00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:10,820
Look around.

592
00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:12,660
Into the slit.

593
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,280
In the pouch.

594
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:20,500
Gone. So if you can imagine this several
times a day, right? Do this. Take as

595
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:21,860
many as they can. Leave.

596
00:40:22,140 --> 00:40:25,680
Go to the next store. Do the same thing
until the sun goes down.

597
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:30,480
Investigators watch and wait while the
stolen goods are moved across state

598
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,480
back to Illinois.

599
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,980
When Bronco calls the feds to unload the
hot items, feds move in to make

600
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:38,980
arrests.

601
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,560
Investigators say Bronco Bogdanoff and
his family were able to live in this

602
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,740
fabulous Northbrook mansion because they
were highly efficient criminals,

603
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:51,560
specializing in shoplifting at stores
across America.

604
00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:56,480
When federal agents searched the
Bogdanoff mansion, They found a treasure

605
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,279
of merchandise.

606
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Everything from the baby monitors and
toys to cutlery, various clothing items,

607
00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:07,300
all sorts of stuff that you might
imagine at a department store, but it

608
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:08,520
right in the Bogdanoff's house.

609
00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:10,880
We had caught them red -handed.

610
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:17,380
In November 2015, the Bogdanoffs all
plead guilty to charges of conspiracy

611
00:41:17,380 --> 00:41:19,700
interstate transportation of stolen
goods.

612
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:25,370
During her court appearances, Layla
seems less than contrite, blaming the

613
00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:28,890
thievery on her Roma or gypsy
upbringing.

614
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:35,270
Layla Bogdanoff's attorney argued on
multiple occasions that Layla was born

615
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:41,850
a culture, a Roma culture, in which she
was taught that stealing was something

616
00:41:41,850 --> 00:41:45,850
that was okay to do. It was actually a
God -given right that she had.

617
00:41:46,130 --> 00:41:50,740
No one buys it. No matter what your
background is, you have to follow the

618
00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:55,440
And no matter who told you, God or your
mother or father, stealing from other

619
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,240
people is just never the right thing to
do. In 2016, a federal judge in Chicago

620
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:05,240
sentenced his husband and wife, Bronco
and Layla Bogdanoff, to four years and

621
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,580
three years, respectively.

622
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,320
Their daughter, Julia, gets just over a
year.

623
00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:16,660
Even with this gang of thieves behind
bars, shoplifting remains a multi

624
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:17,660
dollar problem.

625
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,120
And one day, The Bogdanoffs will walk
free.

626
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,660
I hope that a stay in federal prison
convinces the Bogdanoffs that they need

627
00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:26,660
change their life.

628
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,560
But unfortunately, based on the
information I have, it appears that

629
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,060
only job that they've ever known.

